911 gullible - can you explain?
Coincidences…
Like the coincidental hijacking exercise going on, same time, same scenario, same place as the attacks on 911. (The scenario Condi Rice said no-one could defend against because it couldn’t possibly be envisaged… the coincidence of which was not worthy of any investigation whatsoever by the 911 commission.)
And the coincidental counter terror exercise run on 7/7 - same time, same scenario, same stations… i.e. exactly the same! (Google ‘Peter Power’ - I heard the radio broadcast.)
That was the day a certain Mr Blair was supposed to be announcing UK troop withdrawal from Iraq… coincidence?
The coincidence that the company running the 7/7 exercise has a certain Mr Guiliani on the board of directors?
The odds on that little lot must be the equivalent of a 3-legged elephant winning the Kentucky Derby.
Time for Bush supporters to state your case… prove to me you’re not gullible. I’m not the kind of person who believes in coincidences…
Hmm, quite a few truly ‘gullible’ Answerers… not one answering the question so far - a coincidence?!
STATE YOUR CASE - JUSTIFY WHY I SHOULD BELIEVE THESE COINCIDENCES!
‘Bwana’ - if you’d followed the link you’d have seen that ‘Peter Power’ was RUNNING the exercise!
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/11009379/
… perhaps this explains the quality of answers we are getting here!
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July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
I have never believed the entire 9/11 incident because of the following reasons:
1.Bush had plans to attack Iraq ready to go BEFORE he was elected–and that is reason for me to believe that he fraudulently stole the vote in Florida(from Al Gore in 2002).
2.When 9/11 hit, Bush was in a school talking to elementary school children. Someone knocked on the door, whispered in his ear and then left the room–and Bush resumed talking to the children. The person who came in had informed him of the 9/11 attacks and Bush saw no reason to end his talks and leave in order to be there for his nation. Meanwhile, the vice president, Dick Cheney wasn’t in Washington—he had gone somwhere else. As we all were told, the hi-jackers tried to hit the trade center, the pentagon, and the white house, right? Too much coincidence that both, the prez and the vice prez had disappeared to elsewhere…..
3.According to reports in German newspapers did the Germans arrest 3 suspected terrorists of whom one insisted to talk to someone in the White House, that it was a matter of urgency. The Germans interrogated this guy and then informed the White House that such an attack was to take place—so Bush knew WHAT was going to happen and WHEN it was supposed to happen—and did nothing to prevent it–allowing over 3500 people to perish. As you might remember, there was a trial scheduled for this guy who tried to blow up the world trade center before….
4.Tony Blair gave a speech explaining that the war on terror was not only the fight of the Americans, that it was a fight of every free nation—therefore making me think that all free nations, including Israel would jump in to fight this war—however, that was not the case. In particular the Israelis, whose fight for their freedom we have to fight never supplied a single soldier or any of their superior roadside weapons to help our troops.
5.Another report I heard about in Germany stated that Bush had diverted oil. It went from the only functioning pipeline in Iraq back then, through Kurdistan into Turkey and Bush got the oil. As a lot of people know, Bush is a oil magnate–and so is Dick Cheney who used to be the CEO of Halliburton. He turned this position over to his wife—so the oil goes straight to those who lead our country……
Lastly, the surge was supposed to reduce the violence in Iraq. The war in itself was supposed to be "freedom for Iraq"—I see more violent attacks in Iraq at the present than I saw in the beginning—and isn’t it some coincidence that Blair didn’t take his troops out as promised exactly around the time Bush send in re-enforcement for the "surge"?
I might not have all the facts—but I am refusing to let the media brainwash me. I’ve been in the middle east often enough to know that the people there have a totally different mentality as we do–why do you think the Soviets left Afghanistan after 25 years of war? Because they got nowhere near winning, and the very same thing is happening to us now. We will not win these wars because we cannot comprehend the mentality of the middle east and far east—they are too different. Remember World War 2 and the Japanese Kamikaze pilots? Nowhere in the western world will you find people who would be gladly disguise themselves as bombs to serve their country—even Hitler didn’t produce this kind of people. So when you look at that, and then at the illusion of "freedom for Iraq", then I have to ask if we are nurturing a snake on our chest as we did formerly with Afghanistan where Americans(CIA)built the caves in their mountains which were later a hideout for Al Qeida.
Another thing I will remember is that I heard in Germany that Hussein had a picture of the old Bush on the floor in his palace, and that every time he walked in, he stepped in that face and spit on it—that is considered the worst insult in the Arab world—and George W.Bush knew about this. The entire war on Iraq is nothing but a personal vendetta and a means to get rich for those who are in power(they gave contracts without bidding to their buddies), and even though the war in Afghanistan is legitimate, it is also a personal vendetta between Bin Laden and Bush. Bin Laden got expelled from Saudi Arabia because this administration requested it—and that is when the terror began–Bin Laden had the money and the means to do what he did—but when I look at it objectively, then I have to say that Arafat was just as bad, if not worse. Terrorism will not die out, and so it is best to try as much diplomacy as possible and to contain it as much as possible to one area—Bush is the one who made this world wide by declaring who was evil and who wasn’t. Right now they’re working on Iran to be perceived as evil so that they can build their case for an attack on Iran…….
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
If fire don’t melt that there steel, then hows do they make it , Clem?
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
What are you talking about? Your statements don’t make sense. Did you proof read it before you hit the submit button?
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
9/11 conspiracy theories are wrong.
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
The fact is - the single worst attack on American soil since Pearl Harbor took place during this administrations first term.
This administrations PNAC buddies had been looking for something along the lines of ‘another pearl harbor’ in order to enact their agenda.
They got it on 9/11. And they exploited it every single way they possibly could.
I’m not a conspiracy theorist - just someone who knows better than to believe a lying cokehead alcoholic and his war profiteering VP.
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
Don’t forget the full moon that night…coincidence…I doubt it!!!
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
Be sure you don’t burn yourself with that pipe!
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
What are you tring to get at, kook?
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
I would be a crackpot, idiotic 9-11 conspricy theorist like you if you back it up your claim with proof.
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
If 9/11 conspiracy theory’s are wrong…..
is the best anybody can do, oh well.
What about the upper one sixth of the mass of a 110 story skyscraper "collapsing" and causing the COMPLETE AND TOTAL DESTRUCTION of the remaining part of the building?
This is like if you witnessed a head-on collision between a MINI and an 18 wheeler and the 18 wheeler gets totaled, does it make sense?
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
I can prove to you I am not gullible:
1. Lana Turner once said "I’m so gullible. I’m so damn gullible. And I am so sick of me being gullible. " - I am NOT Lana Turner.
2. Even though conventional wisdom states I am gullible, the internet is full of reasons why I am not. Simply google "not gullible" for 57,600 reasons why I am not.
P.S. There’s just no way this fool-driven gov’t could pull that off. Your weird "logic" doesn’t change my mind on that.
P.P.S. To you "additional details" - no it isn’t a coincidence, it is because your question is so poorly worded and cites no legit sources. Are you really asking the reader to find YOUR evidence on google? Really?? You don’t ask a real question, you don’t get a real answer. Silly. Done with this waste of time…
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
We "gullible" ones are simply idiots who have looked at all the evidence, heard all the testimony, and have seen that it all points to the unmistakable and incontrovertible conclusion that it happened exactly as the 9/11 commission said it did.
Where’s your proof that Peter Pecker has any evidence to support his belief? Because he and conspiracy crank Alex Jones say it exists?
You insult our intelligence with your unsubstantiated fantasies.
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
I’m probably wasting my time on this, but there’s an off chance that you might actually be able to think.
Here’s an analogy.
I used to practice martial arts, too many years ago, but I recall it. From early on, I was taught ways to defend against attacks. One in particular was a person punching me in the face. It was foreseen that someone who attacked me might try to punch me in the face, so I practiced what I would do if anyone ever tried to do that. Later, I fought in a full contact fight, and I’ll be damned if the other guy wasn’t trying to punch me in the face.
What I’m trying to explain to you is that it isn’t that hard to take an objective look at your situation, whether it’s karate, boxing, army exercises, or a chess game, and see what your opponent is likely to do. If you actually do that, you might test and practice and rehearse to try to find some effective ways of responding to them doing that.
And what that all means is that the efforts to find ways to counter the precise ways the attacks came is no surprise, because if one side sees the opening, the other side can, too. Very VERY rarely do attacks come as a total surprise, I think the last time was the attacks on Hiroshima and Nagasaki. The attack on Pearl Harbor, we did know that they COULD do that, we were only surprised that they actually DID do that.
I think everyone in DC knew that Al Qaeda wanted to bring down the towers. Their previous attempt was a clue. Someone SHOULD have been thinking "Okay, a van rented in Jersey and packed with explosives didn’t work, but how MIGHT they succeed?" and come up with the answer. If no one was at least trying to figure this out, they should all be fired.
Try thinking, for a change.
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
I was gullible until a few years ago, and I did vote for President Bush twice, but I cannot explain what you ask.
It should be explained by a impartial investigation that chooses to view all of the evidence rather than cherry-pick.
That page you link could explain some of the answers here as you suggest. It could also be plain old denial. My guess is "denial" judging by the tone of the answers.
The best source you received from the skeptics was that skeptic.com site that sources Popular Mechanics. L.O.L.
L.O. even louder. it sources SNOPES.COM!!
The government’s own "senior investigator", NIST, has debunked Popular Mechanics’ laughable theories yet the skeptics keep citing PM. That helps the quest for truth. The page sourced doesn’t even mention NIST. Strange how such strong opinions can be formed with such out-dated information. If you read the collapse theory on that page, then you read the official NIST report for the towers, you will, quite frankly, laugh out loud at the glaring differences in the facts, figures and theories.
Do the skeptics claiming to have read "ALL" of the evidence even know about NIST? If so, do they know that NIST has yet to release the first draft report for the collapse of WTC7. NIST is playing the "protect-the-criminals" game just like PM and FEMA, but NIST’s game is starting to unravel.
Kuddos to them though–they have great legal experts drafting their reports. The drafters have skillfully phrased key claims in a way that suggest what their client wants to hear, yet sufficiently flexible in the language to protect NIST when ultimately NIST is indicted for their complicity in covering up the murder of thousands of innocent people.
These skeptics look more than a little silly when they cannot even bother to update themselves on the status before linking a source.
Enough said! The demolitions theory is interesting but not critical to the case, and I need not subscribe to it to know that the government is lying and covering up. What matters most is the volume of compelling evidence for foreknowledge and complicity. The 9-11 Commission was a farce. It was stacked with insiders and it had the same objective as PM and NIST, protect-the-criminals.
We need a new and impartial investigation to consider all of the evidence for a change, and to identify those criminals and bring them to justice.
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
Rob W deserves props for being accurate and impartial…
Having said that, I’ll take the bait Violator and play Devils Advocate.
These people aren’t gullible… they are Zealots, there is a huge difference. At this point the only people willing to accept the official spin at face value.. want too, .. not because they are confused, obtuse or ignorant… but because they hate. They hate you for asking the question, they hate me for understanding their conformity, they Hate the poor for being poor, they Hate.. period.
Coincidence? That the Lease holder of the complex stated clearly "Pull it" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7WYdAJQV100
Coincidence that Condy Rice Lied and said that they "never could have imagined using Jet airliners as weapons".. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ri1i6nAGOE
A Coincidence that all of the News coverage from that day completely discredits the official white wash..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWgSaBT9hNU
there are no coincidences, this was a well planned and scripted attempt at covering up the worst act of Domestic terror in our Country’s history… I won’t blame the Bush administration, because I can’t directly prove their involvement… what I can say without any issue at all is that…
If it smells like fish, it’s usually fish… and this definitely doesn’t smell like steak.
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
I say it is no coincidence and most of America suspect something is that a coincidence too?
The U.S government hardly have a good record for being honest and its very unlikely they speak any truth whatsoever! They have their agendas that’s all that matters, it is simply logical to me that everything government is contrived, they have everyone’s money a large percentage of it, and that talks big time.
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
Good points here Spam, Novice, Rob, Sitizen and what she ^ said
And Electric Boogaloo of course.
I’ve nothing to add
Playbear will come along later and talk wollocks just ignore.
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
You guys haven’t figured out who exactly was behind the J.F.K assassination, yet 9/11 is a clear cut conspiracy with the culprits at hand.
July 8th, 2010 at 4:49 am
I might have to cut my typing fingers off after this, but I absolutely agree with Mr. Durden!!