Kentucky Derby 135: Bennie Woolley interview
NTRA.com’s Caton Bredar interviews trainer Bennie Woolley ahead of the Kentucky Derby on Friday, May 1, 2009.
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May 27th, 2009 at 11:35 am
CONT- That is something Woolley was saying before the Derby. So it is not surprising at all that Smith had him where was in the Preakness. You place your horse where he will have the best chance. Like I said before,he ran his final 1/4 in the Derby in 23 1/5,you said it was the slop,well in the Preakness(dry track by the way and a different surface than Churchill) he made the same big move,and according to Haskins,he estimates he ran his final 3/16 in a sick 18 3/5! RA ran hers in 19 1/5,CONT_
May 27th, 2009 at 11:37 am
CONT- 19 1/5 is considered excellent for 3/16 of a mile. So MTB is the real mcCoy. One thing you got right,is the Belmont S. makes him even more dangerous. End of lesson.
July 28th, 2009 at 2:35 am
Secretariat was a freak of nature, beyond Micheal Jordan,physically abnormal. Since you offer lessons you must know what I mean. What do slow fractions do for a horse that likes to come from off the pace? Is it easier for a horse to run away with slow fracs? You said you give free lessons.
July 30th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Bit of a drive…with a broken leg to boot…WOW!
August 15th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
Actually Chance(you seem to dislike me,and I know you not at all,strange) there are 2 types of closers! #1 you have the type that has to have a very quick pace up front to set the race up for him. Meaning if the pace isn’t fast enough he will fall short! The other type #2(aside from a freak like Sec), is like MTB,a horse who prefers to be way back,BUT has the turn of foot to run down horses even after a pace that is honest or a bit slow! A fast pace would make things even easier him type! SIMPLE
August 15th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
As for a front running type,it is very common for the jock to slow down the pace,so he can conserve his horses energy for the stretch! Thats called “stealing” a race. Other jocks sometimes sense this slow pace,and will put some pressure on this front runner so he will not be able to conserve enough energy to be a threat in the stretch. Simple as it can get Chance! Now your learning what I meant by variables !
August 15th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
The word you are looking for is VARIANT. You need the lessons. The TRACK has to be running a certain way for any of this to work. That’s why you don’t just play a race at track here or there. To MAKE MONEY you have to know what the track is running. There’s a few books by ANDREW BEYER,read,u need em. His knowledge and my actually being around a real racetrack really separate us. Stick to what you see on TVG. You aren’t worth my time anymore.
August 17th, 2009 at 1:57 pm
I answered your damn question,and judging by your reaction you somehow got po’d because I gave you the right answer!! Your a joke,you never said anything about track variant. You asked quite clearly “What do slow fractions do for a horse who likes to come from off the pace?” You also said quite clearly “Is it easier for a horse to run away with slow fractions?” I gave you clear answers,and now you say I didn’t bring up track variants??? Know wonder you were just a groom,LOL!!!
August 17th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
ops I meant No wonder……
August 17th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
Track variant is a simple numbers figure! It in a nutshell,it takes into accoun tall the races run on a particular day at a particular track, with the same track conditions and distance!!! Buddy if you play damn near every race everytime you go to the track,you will be lucky in the longterm to show a profit. Your claim that I don’t know what I’m talking about is asinine to say the least. It not just about how the track is running groom! Here is what I meant by variables!,Class,current form,CONT
August 17th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
CONT- Distance,track conditions,running styles,etc. Evidently you didn’t get the weak answers you were hoping for! There is a lot more to betting on horses than just how the track is playing! When I said you could go for days before playing a race,I meant at one track,not simulcasts!I never said it was common everyday stuff either You think I made that UP!! I have heard that for years,and when you go to a track,you soon recognize who the “experts” are. You see them in line with winning tickets
August 17th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Cont- So I guess your little comment on how you don’t have time for me anymore,well it says it all! You realized your no match for your mouth Groom!! Send me a dirty foul mouthed message?? Haven’t got the nerve to say here??? I didn’t start this,but I finished it! Groom!
August 17th, 2009 at 2:30 pm
You say the track has to be running a certain way for any of this to work,???? What on earth are you talking about when your question was quite clear??? You asked what do slow fractions do for a horse who comes from off the pace? I gave you two types of closers,and illustrated what would or could happen with each type of closer!!! Then you ask Is it easier for a horse to run away with slow fractions?? If a speedy FR gets up top,and is the only speed in the race,and the jock gets the horse,CONT-
August 17th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
CONT- to settle,and if the horse can get the distance under these circumstances. Well Groom,that horse has a legit shot to steal the race. If there is a closer with a big turn of foot(regardless of the slow fractions),then the early leader may have some trouble. But if you have a closer who has to have the pace up near suicidal,like 45 2/5 for a 1/2,1:09 & change for 3/4, going 10 furlongs. If the fractions are slow to honest,like 47-48 for a 1/2,&1:11-1:12 for 3/4.Well Groom that closer,CNT
August 17th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
CONT- That Closer will have a hard time hitting the board,muchless catching a freewheeling horse with some speed who has been allowed to cut some easy fractions,saving his kick for the stretch! Add another Speedy horse and well things can get sticky for both FR’s!! Are ya getting it now Gromm,LOL!!! Your the one I don’t have time for. Whether you realize it or not you got a lesson,GOODBYE!
August 17th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
There is way way more to horseracing then just a freaking track variance. Hey did some tout at the track clue you onto that angle??? LOL Groom!
August 17th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Groom I still think you can’t distinguish between the words VARIABLES AND VARIANT!!!! You brought up track variants not me! Now I have answered your questions exactly, the way YOU worded the questions,and now your PO’d because I’m making just too much sense for you to handle. Go back and do what you do best,that being mucking stalls!!!LOL!!!!! Remember Groom you started this crap with me! Got any questions,besides something you think has to do with track variants???? LOL!!!
August 17th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
And before I forget Groom, BE109 doesn’t stand for Beyer 109!!! LOL!, my first name is BILL!!! and the letter E is the first letter of my last name!!! LOL!!! I bet you could muck a stall pretty good at least! Your sure way off base with everything else!Remember your the one who started crap with me,so don’t do just like Champ and try to spin it around,LOL!!!!
August 19th, 2009 at 12:19 pm
Where is the all knowing Groom???? You start crap with me,and imply I don’t know what I’m talking about! But when you find out otherwise,you disappear. Hey you said bring it on,well I brought it Groom,LOL!!! Where did you go?????
August 20th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Take some advice Groom,before you go and send a dirty personal message,and call me a bunch of BS names! You might want to make sure who your actually dealing with before you start crap! As for Champ,your accusation that somehow I’m bullying him is asinine! That fool started crap with me way way back! I’m just humoring him by responding to his nonsense thats all!!
November 12th, 2009 at 6:45 pm
I didn’t really care that much for MTB, I just didn’t think he was all that great, but the problem I have is this: this horse is a gelding. So he has to race to make money, beings he can’t be put to stud. So what happens if he comes up lame, or just gets too damn old to run? Is it to the glue factory for him?????
November 15th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
no no not at all. you are correct about his career he will keep racing longer than most other horses that are good like summer bird and musket man, but it doesnt mean the glue factory. he is loved wat too much. maybe chip wolley will make him his stable pony like funny cide was for barclay tag. as far as complete reitrement maybe the kentucky horse park in lexington
November 15th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
Even though I’m not a MTB fan, I wish him a long,happy and productive life! I just don’t want to see him “put down” because he’s a gelding, and he’s too old or broke down to race any more. He made his owners a good living after all, and he deserves a good retirement.
May 1st, 2010 at 10:12 pm
@gotch09 Hopefully it won’t be that way. They could use him maybe as a lead pony, exercise horse with the horses racing, maybe retirement on a farm until he gets old?
May 1st, 2010 at 11:58 pm
@21Sarabi Even thought I’m not a “Bo-rail” fan at all, and I wasn’t that big of a fan of Mind that Bird, I wish him all the best and a very happy and long retirement.