Precisely. Facts and data speak for themselves. I have read that tirade you speak of on Amazon and found it very hypocritical. Why on earth can’t that gentleman just accept SEC’S greatness without bashing him? We’ve never done that to Cy. I truly wish he would lighten up and just enjoy SEC for what he was. Besides, race records can be just as deceiving as race times, so his argument on that is shaky at best.
Yes indeed. I remember that discussion very well. He took the condescending liberty of assuming I was young without even looking into my screen name and race posts. I let it go, because I was fairly new at the YouTube game and didn’t need the trouble. Don’t you worry, I’ve always had my eye on him. He won’t get away with that crap here, I can assure you that.
Well, we’re out of luck bec if you notice he hasn’t been back on S’s videos, or he doesn’t comment. After he seemed to grow up and open up, he went back to his old ascerbic, bitter ways and blusterjfk finally told him off and wrote him off. He tried very hard to discuss intelligently and counter the guy’s false arguments/logic, much to my envy, but when he went bad again, bluster had had it and said enough.
I hope so too. Horsemen can be a funny bunch, a little more faith in their own horses would have held them in good stead.
Those comments, if completely accurate are flat out laughable. SEC in the Laurel Futurity dispels the mud bashing theory, and I just KNOW that had SEC been allowed to run at 4 he would have carried the fridge without any trouble whatsoever!
Wow, Nerud seems to have been just like his horse, Dr. Fager…unpredictable.
Yep. But I have to say, it’s been nice not to have to read his negative comments anymore, even if he still is biased against SEC. I have to say, it grew tiresome to see the arguing that went on. It detracts from the joy of racing when people can’t simply agree to disagree on something if it’s not possible to agree. I certainly don’t have and won’t seek the time for doing so, unless ABSOLUTELY neccesary.
2:02 2/5 - History is held with his still American record (dirt) for 1 1/4 mile at 1:57 4/5, which will never be matched.” I love The Bid, he is my 2nd favourite. Bid’s 1:57 4/5 was in fact set 7 years previous by Secretariat while EASING through an extra furlong in the ‘73 Marlboro. I can’t think of another horse in history that SET records while cooling down, can you? cf1970
what a great horse. too bad he didn’t win the belmont also. altho he did not do well in the breeding shed, and ended up a 2500/stud fee hunter/jumper sire in ny state, Bid was well taken care of and died in his mid 20s about the same time as to other wonderful horses, Affirmed and Seattle Slew.
Not into many conspiracy theories, but that would have been the 3rd year in a row for a triple.
Bid, from what I remember had a pin in his hoof. Isnt that true? 30 starts, 26 wins, 2 place. Is there another horse that had 30 starts with only 4 losses?
In that Belmont, running on an injured foot, still finished in the money.
I was at this race and Bid was the reason. What a FREAK!
The loss in the Belmont was due to a bad ride more than anything.
Once they put the Shoe on him he was 12 wins and a 2nd to Affirmed in the Jockey Gold Cup. He did run a 1:57 4/5 in the 80 Strub where they went the mile in 1:32 4/5.
In his last 24 starts he was the betting favorite 23 times and that Gold Cup was the one exception. Saw him live 3 times and he never disappointed.
It’s possible that General Assembly, Flying Paster and maybe even Golden Act and Lot O’ Gold could have been Hall of Famers if not for the Bid. I think this 79′ crop was one of the strongest ever, as it also included Coastal, Smarten, Czarvich, Valdez, Winter’s Tale, Clever Trick, Private Account, Relaunch, as well as females Davona Dale, It’s In the Air, Glorious Song, Candy Eclair, Relaxing, Just a Game and Track Robbery.
Bid’s ’shadow’ continues to grow over the test of time. What a fitting tribute to end his career with a walkover. Some in the racing ranks consider that racings highest honor is a walkover.
I always liked Bid and it was an excellent year for 3 year olds. Not sure if I buy the whole safety pin in hoof story but was glad they took Ronnie Franklin off the horse and gave the mount Shoemaker. General Assembly was a grind it out, give it all you got horse.
I saw bid at arlinton park delp told shoe not to come near any horse I went to gate and Bid came in and started kicking the gate with back foot bang bang bang–shoe yelled start the f–kin race. gate opened bid blew out of gate and shoe stood up and held him back– three other horses ran off and down the back stretch shoe went 8 wide and blew them away– most amazing thing a ever saw– set track record at mileand 1/8 146 and1/5 carrying 130 POUNDS record still stands and shoe never touched him
someone post the 1979 florida derby that was Bids best race– other jockeys new how good Bid was and new they could screw with franklin– jockeys cut bid off twice and franklin had to pull bid up almost to a trot I almost vapor locked at OTB– Bid collected himself pinned his ears back and took ronnie along for ride— blew them away– just an amazing horse, very small horse- big big heart when they got Shoe on him oh man, when Bid died shoe was waitin in heaven for him- best horse he ever rode
I cried when flying paster, Cal Bred, and my favorite horse of all time chucked it in on the far turn. In April of that year, I was 19 and was diagnosed with bone cancer and told my right leg would be amputated and I had a 50/50 chance to live. I needed Paster to beat Bid to boost my spirits but he couldn’t, never could, flopped in the Preakness, too.. I survived though, have a family with two great kids, but I think all the time about the kids I met in the hospital that didn’t make it.
Very sorry to hear of your troubles. I’m glad to read of your triumph over cancer and nice family. I hope life is treating you kindly nowadays. Yes, those poor kids… I believe those that don’t make it are in a much better place now.
The Paster was a fine horse, but, yes, The Bid just seemed to be his “waterloo”, if you will. Nevertheless, I always admired his fighting spirit whenever they met. He gave it his all, everytime.
God bless you, and may you have a wondrous Christmas.
January 3rd, 2008 at 12:18 am
Precisely. Facts and data speak for themselves. I have read that tirade you speak of on Amazon and found it very hypocritical. Why on earth can’t that gentleman just accept SEC’S greatness without bashing him? We’ve never done that to Cy. I truly wish he would lighten up and just enjoy SEC for what he was. Besides, race records can be just as deceiving as race times, so his argument on that is shaky at best.
January 3rd, 2008 at 12:22 am
Yes indeed. I remember that discussion very well. He took the condescending liberty of assuming I was young without even looking into my screen name and race posts. I let it go, because I was fairly new at the YouTube game and didn’t need the trouble. Don’t you worry, I’ve always had my eye on him. He won’t get away with that crap here, I can assure you that.
January 3rd, 2008 at 12:28 am
Well, we’re out of luck bec if you notice he hasn’t been back on S’s videos, or he doesn’t comment. After he seemed to grow up and open up, he went back to his old ascerbic, bitter ways and blusterjfk finally told him off and wrote him off. He tried very hard to discuss intelligently and counter the guy’s false arguments/logic, much to my envy, but when he went bad again, bluster had had it and said enough.
January 3rd, 2008 at 12:33 am
I hope so too. Horsemen can be a funny bunch, a little more faith in their own horses would have held them in good stead.
Those comments, if completely accurate are flat out laughable. SEC in the Laurel Futurity dispels the mud bashing theory, and I just KNOW that had SEC been allowed to run at 4 he would have carried the fridge without any trouble whatsoever!
Wow, Nerud seems to have been just like his horse, Dr. Fager…unpredictable.
January 3rd, 2008 at 12:41 am
Yep. But I have to say, it’s been nice not to have to read his negative comments anymore, even if he still is biased against SEC. I have to say, it grew tiresome to see the arguing that went on. It detracts from the joy of racing when people can’t simply agree to disagree on something if it’s not possible to agree. I certainly don’t have and won’t seek the time for doing so, unless ABSOLUTELY neccesary.
January 3rd, 2008 at 3:33 am
I’d love to read it as well!
January 7th, 2008 at 7:45 pm
2:02 2/5 - History is held with his still American record (dirt) for 1 1/4 mile at 1:57 4/5, which will never be matched.” I love The Bid, he is my 2nd favourite. Bid’s 1:57 4/5 was in fact set 7 years previous by Secretariat while EASING through an extra furlong in the ‘73 Marlboro. I can’t think of another horse in history that SET records while cooling down, can you? cf1970
February 1st, 2008 at 4:54 pm
I used to lease his daughter.
March 29th, 2008 at 7:22 pm
what a great horse. too bad he didn’t win the belmont also. altho he did not do well in the breeding shed, and ended up a 2500/stud fee hunter/jumper sire in ny state, Bid was well taken care of and died in his mid 20s about the same time as to other wonderful horses, Affirmed and Seattle Slew.
April 11th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Not into many conspiracy theories, but that would have been the 3rd year in a row for a triple.
Bid, from what I remember had a pin in his hoof. Isnt that true? 30 starts, 26 wins, 2 place. Is there another horse that had 30 starts with only 4 losses?
In that Belmont, running on an injured foot, still finished in the money.
May 4th, 2008 at 2:58 pm
I’ve lost count of how many videos of Bid I’ve watched…I’m always amazed at how quickly and efficiently he changed leads at the head of the stretch.
May 6th, 2008 at 12:42 am
Thanks for posting this. This was my first time seeing Spectacular Bid run.
May 6th, 2008 at 1:59 pm
One of the greatest to never win the Crown.
July 15th, 2008 at 6:32 am
biedne koniki dostają takie baty że aż się w głowie nie mieści nie lubie twego sportu!! ;/
September 19th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
seriously he ran 1 1/4 miles in 1:57 4/5??
October 28th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
I was at this race and Bid was the reason. What a FREAK!
The loss in the Belmont was due to a bad ride more than anything.
Once they put the Shoe on him he was 12 wins and a 2nd to Affirmed in the Jockey Gold Cup. He did run a 1:57 4/5 in the 80 Strub where they went the mile in 1:32 4/5.
In his last 24 starts he was the betting favorite 23 times and that Gold Cup was the one exception. Saw him live 3 times and he never disappointed.
May 10th, 2009 at 9:55 am
It’s possible that General Assembly, Flying Paster and maybe even Golden Act and Lot O’ Gold could have been Hall of Famers if not for the Bid. I think this 79′ crop was one of the strongest ever, as it also included Coastal, Smarten, Czarvich, Valdez, Winter’s Tale, Clever Trick, Private Account, Relaunch, as well as females Davona Dale, It’s In the Air, Glorious Song, Candy Eclair, Relaxing, Just a Game and Track Robbery.
August 18th, 2009 at 12:21 am
Bid’s ’shadow’ continues to grow over the test of time. What a fitting tribute to end his career with a walkover. Some in the racing ranks consider that racings highest honor is a walkover.
August 21st, 2009 at 8:35 am
OMG I see General Assembly for the first time in a race - great - I met him 2 years before he died. I have a video with him. Enjoy it.
September 21st, 2009 at 6:01 am
I always liked Bid and it was an excellent year for 3 year olds. Not sure if I buy the whole safety pin in hoof story but was glad they took Ronnie Franklin off the horse and gave the mount Shoemaker. General Assembly was a grind it out, give it all you got horse.
October 4th, 2009 at 10:07 am
I saw bid at arlinton park delp told shoe not to come near any horse I went to gate and Bid came in and started kicking the gate with back foot bang bang bang–shoe yelled start the f–kin race. gate opened bid blew out of gate and shoe stood up and held him back– three other horses ran off and down the back stretch shoe went 8 wide and blew them away– most amazing thing a ever saw– set track record at mileand 1/8 146 and1/5 carrying 130 POUNDS record still stands and shoe never touched him
October 4th, 2009 at 10:16 am
someone post the 1979 florida derby that was Bids best race– other jockeys new how good Bid was and new they could screw with franklin– jockeys cut bid off twice and franklin had to pull bid up almost to a trot I almost vapor locked at OTB– Bid collected himself pinned his ears back and took ronnie along for ride— blew them away– just an amazing horse, very small horse- big big heart when they got Shoe on him oh man, when Bid died shoe was waitin in heaven for him- best horse he ever rode
October 4th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Great first hand account about THE BID. Bill Shoemaker had been asked who is the greatest he ever rode, his reply “Spectacular Bid hands down”
November 21st, 2009 at 1:47 am
I cried when flying paster, Cal Bred, and my favorite horse of all time chucked it in on the far turn. In April of that year, I was 19 and was diagnosed with bone cancer and told my right leg would be amputated and I had a 50/50 chance to live. I needed Paster to beat Bid to boost my spirits but he couldn’t, never could, flopped in the Preakness, too.. I survived though, have a family with two great kids, but I think all the time about the kids I met in the hospital that didn’t make it.
November 22nd, 2009 at 12:00 pm
Very sorry to hear of your troubles. I’m glad to read of your triumph over cancer and nice family. I hope life is treating you kindly nowadays. Yes, those poor kids… I believe those that don’t make it are in a much better place now.
The Paster was a fine horse, but, yes, The Bid just seemed to be his “waterloo”, if you will. Nevertheless, I always admired his fighting spirit whenever they met. He gave it his all, everytime.
God bless you, and may you have a wondrous Christmas.